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they will waste your taxpayer dollars and overspend and continue to raise yourr deficit unbelievable numbers that you can't find on yourr calculator. this is not a deal and kicking the can down the road . hear the president to come to a table and find a deal. who believes that? he had four years to do that and did not do it. >> steve: smoosomeone who will not let the president of the united states raise taxes is john boehner. that is not happening. >> brian: he said revenue on the table don't act like we are not budging. >> steve: tim geithner is showing up. boehner and geithner and company come over and you better have a plan. more on this later on. >> gretchen: now the rest of the headlines. gitmodetainees. are they coming back to america now. or feinstein said possibility. the story came to light after fox news turned up a document. feinstein's office put it on line. that was his first executive order when he was elected president. he said he would close gitmo. it is still open. abbas's turn to ask for palestinian statehood. expected to get his wish . he wants palestine to be upda
they will waste your taxpayer dollars and overspend and continue to raise yourr deficit unbelievable numbers that you can't find on yourr calculator. this is not a deal and kicking the can down the road . hear the president to come to a table and find a deal. who believes that? he had four years to do that and did not do it. >> steve: smoosomeone who will not let the president of the united states raise taxes is john boehner. that is not happening. >> brian: he said revenue on the...
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all of this deficit reduction stuff, there isn't any. there aren't any spending cuts. >> greta: while democrats and republicans fight it out, the nation is waiting and waiting and waiting and suffering as they wait. former new york city mayor rudy guiliani joins us. good evening, mayor. >> how will this unravel? >> if you take them at their word, it sounds like the president is anxious to go over the fiscal cliff, and he leaves very little room for republicans to negotiate with him with a 1.7 trillion dollar tax increase, 50 billion more in stimulus spending, and absolutely no expenditure reductions that are going to take place right now. i mean, from the point of view of republicans, you're going to get more spending decreases if you go over the fiscal cliff than if you deal with president obama. >> greta: well, it appears to many in the city that it's politico check mate for the president. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what it means is the taxes will go up on the wealthy, the big earners. it also goes up on the middle class. i assume
all of this deficit reduction stuff, there isn't any. there aren't any spending cuts. >> greta: while democrats and republicans fight it out, the nation is waiting and waiting and waiting and suffering as they wait. former new york city mayor rudy guiliani joins us. good evening, mayor. >> how will this unravel? >> if you take them at their word, it sounds like the president is anxious to go over the fiscal cliff, and he leaves very little room for republicans to negotiate...
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and with the issue behind us, we'll have more time to work out a plan to bring down our deficits in a balanced way -- including by asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more, so we can still invest in the things that make our nation strong, like education and research. so let's begin by doing what we all agree on. both parties say we should keep middle-class taxes low. the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle-class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. and if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. but it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. and if you agree with me, then i could use your help. let your congressman know what $2,000 means to you. give them a call. write them an email. or tweet them using the hashtag "my2k." that's my2k. you and your family have a lot riding on the outcome of this debate. we all do. an
and with the issue behind us, we'll have more time to work out a plan to bring down our deficits in a balanced way -- including by asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more, so we can still invest in the things that make our nation strong, like education and research. so let's begin by doing what we all agree on. both parties say we should keep middle-class taxes low. the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle-class families. democrats in the...
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it is not just deficit hawks who want to get rid of this. former clinton era labor secretary and big time liberal economist robert reich had been saying for years the mortgage interest deduction should end. but he acknowledged the political realities make that hard to do. if you can't get rid of it, maybe the government should limit it. >> it should be limited, i believe. you can't get rid of it politically. it is almost impossible. but also economically, if you simply got rid of it altogether, the housing market would take a big hit. >> that assumes that some people won't buy a house if they don't get the tax break and i'm not sure that's true. that's what you need to know about your money right now. i will see you this weekend, tomorrow, 1:00 p.m. eastern, sunday at 3:00. you'll meet the one single democrat in the current congress who signed the norquist anti-tax pledge. and we'll find out if he's sticking to his guns. from the cnn money newsroom in new york, i'm ali velshi with your money. of any small business credit card! pizza!!!!! [ g
it is not just deficit hawks who want to get rid of this. former clinton era labor secretary and big time liberal economist robert reich had been saying for years the mortgage interest deduction should end. but he acknowledged the political realities make that hard to do. if you can't get rid of it, maybe the government should limit it. >> it should be limited, i believe. you can't get rid of it politically. it is almost impossible. but also economically, if you simply got rid of it...
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and doing stuff, fine let the cliff come. >> brian: but the deficit is not addressed and our defense will be gutted. you okay with that? >> i'm not okay with it. but i think the defense will just trim and get it done. listen, the guys who are in the military have operated that way for a long time. in other words they know somebody gives them something they know how to get a job done with less in many cases. they'll do it. >> brian: i don't think so. i think it will be a disas -- disaster and the military will be cut down. >> maybe the disaster would be maybe they don't understand it. now deal with it. >> brian: there is carnage until they come to the realization. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> brian: this morning you will hear from the cop who spent his hard earned cash to buy a homeless man a pair of boots and socks. and from the tourist who snapped this picture. then schools are failing. crime is rising. so why is rahm emanuel say his city is the perfect model for america? chicago? really? i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even mo
and doing stuff, fine let the cliff come. >> brian: but the deficit is not addressed and our defense will be gutted. you okay with that? >> i'm not okay with it. but i think the defense will just trim and get it done. listen, the guys who are in the military have operated that way for a long time. in other words they know somebody gives them something they know how to get a job done with less in many cases. they'll do it. >> brian: i don't think so. i think it will be a disas...
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marchese said tax increases are necessary to reduce the deficit. senator bob casey of pennsylvania chaired the hearing. >> the committee will come to order. we want to thank everyone for being here today. i did not have a chance to personally greet our witnesses, but i will have time to do that later. i want to thank both of our witnesses for being here. i will have an opening statement that i will make, and then i will turn it to dr. burgess. i know that vice chairman brady will be her as well. we know the challenges that we confront here in congress on a whole range of issues which are sometimes broadly described under the umbrella of the terminology, fiscal cliff -- when we confront those difficult challenges, we have to ask ourselves a couple of basic questions. one of the basic questions we must ask is, what will be the result and will be the impact as it relates to middle income families? what will happen to them in the midst of all these tough issues we have to work out? we know there is broad agreement that going over the so-called fiscal c
marchese said tax increases are necessary to reduce the deficit. senator bob casey of pennsylvania chaired the hearing. >> the committee will come to order. we want to thank everyone for being here today. i did not have a chance to personally greet our witnesses, but i will have time to do that later. i want to thank both of our witnesses for being here. i will have an opening statement that i will make, and then i will turn it to dr. burgess. i know that vice chairman brady will be her...
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situation with respect to our deficit and debt is a national security liability. we need our senior leadership. we need a senior leadership to take it on. we have an opportunity to do so. we have a requirement to do so. at the foundation of national power is ultimately economic comment and in terms of global influence, in terms of the ability to support a military, the economic is foundation. and we have i think the united states, both an opportunity to require it to get our house in order, and i believe that our 100 senators and members of the house will step up on this and sufficient majority in the coming months. >> how do you look at your surplus of the u.s.? does that say we have america under our control? >> we are one of the closest allies of the united states. so of course our position today to united states is very, very decisive, strengthen our relationship. so these are not, there is no intention for us to try to use this kind of economic relationship in different context. so we are very satisfied with the current relationship with the united states. th
situation with respect to our deficit and debt is a national security liability. we need our senior leadership. we need a senior leadership to take it on. we have an opportunity to do so. we have a requirement to do so. at the foundation of national power is ultimately economic comment and in terms of global influence, in terms of the ability to support a military, the economic is foundation. and we have i think the united states, both an opportunity to require it to get our house in order, and...
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it's about $2.2 trillion, they say, in savings to the deficit but on that fundamental as you say key sticking point, it doesn't change anything. they simply do not propose to raise any tax rates. let's just look at some specifics on this tax issue. the house gop counter proposal which came out this afternoon does put out 800 billi$800 billw tax renoouf. nothing on bush-era tax rates. those would continue. just look at that compared to the white house offer which last week which was $1.6 trillion in tax revenue. the majority of that from raising tax rates for the wealthiest americans and still absolute biggest divide between the two sides. no question about it. >> and so when you really look at where we are, democrats want tax rates to go up for wealthier americans. republicans long pushing for changes to entitlement programs and what else is in this republican proposal then? >> reporter: some of that, as well. look at that. $600 billion in what republicans call health savings. we don't have a lot of specifics on it but republican sources say that much of that will come from medicare
it's about $2.2 trillion, they say, in savings to the deficit but on that fundamental as you say key sticking point, it doesn't change anything. they simply do not propose to raise any tax rates. let's just look at some specifics on this tax issue. the house gop counter proposal which came out this afternoon does put out 800 billi$800 billw tax renoouf. nothing on bush-era tax rates. those would continue. just look at that compared to the white house offer which last week which was $1.6...
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president proposing for tackling the real economic challenge we have here, the real driver of budget deficits, the real threat to american economics, superiority in this world, out of control-- the president of the united states, the president for four yea years, no credible plan for tackling that spending. >> dave: there's been nothing put on paper when it comes to entitlements from the president one thing he's been afraid to do. now he's been reelected don't be afraid to face the voters. tack tackle entitlement and changes to survive. >> alisyn: isn't that the beauty of the second term. incumbency you're no longer bo ho holden to anyone. >> and that 1.6 trillion dollar. before 800 billion and now it's 1.6 trillion. maybe that's the second term speaking. >> alisyn: let's talk about what's going on with the christmas tree. as you know, it's christmas season and that means that there will be incidents where the p.c. police are out in force, checking and calling your tree, a holiday tree or a christmas tree and this has. this is brewing in massachusetts because the mayor of a small town, well,
president proposing for tackling the real economic challenge we have here, the real driver of budget deficits, the real threat to american economics, superiority in this world, out of control-- the president of the united states, the president for four yea years, no credible plan for tackling that spending. >> dave: there's been nothing put on paper when it comes to entitlements from the president one thing he's been afraid to do. now he's been reelected don't be afraid to face the...
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. >> it's true when bill clinton left office in 2000 we had you are plus and the deficit would have been eliminated as we sit here today what changed that was the republican president and congress. what put us on the path we are on now is not democrats. we would have no collective debt at all if we had left in place the clinton budgetary strategy. megyn: what do you make of that quote. >> what i'm responding to is i think what we are dealing with is a tell poar a temporal thing. it would drive the markets down and create say could and uncertainty. the president is saying we can't go through that again. megyn: he's wanting not only to raise it but to have uniform authority to raise. a fewer years ago they were saying that was a failure of leadership. >> he may not get it but he's right to argue that way the republicans have been doing this has been irresponsible. let's get this done in the way our democracy has worked the for hundreds of years. not this new extraordinary thing. i think he's right to put pressure on the republicans. megyn: i thought it was the democrats trying to make this
. >> it's true when bill clinton left office in 2000 we had you are plus and the deficit would have been eliminated as we sit here today what changed that was the republican president and congress. what put us on the path we are on now is not democrats. we would have no collective debt at all if we had left in place the clinton budgetary strategy. megyn: what do you make of that quote. >> what i'm responding to is i think what we are dealing with is a tell poar a temporal thing. it...
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continuing hope this leadership in this country comes together in france in agreement that avoids this deficit clips that were hanging on. >> from the va -- [inaudible] >> one of the big problems of disability claims that the medical records issue. [inaudible] to improve the medical records. secretary panetta, something that helps to have a better physicalism maybe this service will have a better record of what their problems are. what you do for the people to know, hundreds of thousands of people appending claims no and are being postponed because of the fact that medical records either to history too complicated to come by and prove whether they have a disability. >> i think production demonstrates we are working these cases aren't immediately available to develop them so we have a fully developed claim and can make judgments. we do that better reader than that a million claims a year big challenge for us is to get a million plus and returned coming in the door. that's where the automation system called veterans benefits management system is key to our ability to do with those numbers. we pu
continuing hope this leadership in this country comes together in france in agreement that avoids this deficit clips that were hanging on. >> from the va -- [inaudible] >> one of the big problems of disability claims that the medical records issue. [inaudible] to improve the medical records. secretary panetta, something that helps to have a better physicalism maybe this service will have a better record of what their problems are. what you do for the people to know, hundreds of...
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continuing hope is that the leadership in the country comes together, and finds an agreement that avoids deficit cliff we're hanging on. >> thank you. from the va. >> [inaudible] >> so one of the big problems with these long number of disability claims is the medical records issue, and secretary discussed a long term fix, improve the medical records, and secretary panetta described, and something that helps people still in the service by having better physicals so that when they leave the service, there's a better record of what their actual problems are, but what do you do for people in the middle,s hundreds of thousands of people who have pending claims now postponed because of the fact that the medical records either don't exist or are too complicated to come by so you can't prove or disprove there's a date. is there hope for them in what the two of you are working on? >> yeah, i think our production demonstrates we are working cases where the records are not immediately available. we go through erroneous effort so there's a fully developed claim and request make judgments. we're doing that a
continuing hope is that the leadership in the country comes together, and finds an agreement that avoids deficit cliff we're hanging on. >> thank you. from the va. >> [inaudible] >> so one of the big problems with these long number of disability claims is the medical records issue, and secretary discussed a long term fix, improve the medical records, and secretary panetta described, and something that helps people still in the service by having better physicals so that when...
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but the other thing is remember this continued tax cut for the middle class is part of a deficit reduction package so the president is very much focused on getting rid of that debt and getting it off the backs of our kids but in the meantime, it is not necessary to raise tax rates on the middle class in order to get there. and if we did raise taxes on the middle class, it is not going to get us that far down the road. what will really get us down the road is getting back to the regular tax cuts, having the wealthiest of americans pay their fair share. letting the 2% go back up from 35% to 39% which they were under bill clinton. one final my2k story from doug up in vancouver washington. what do you say? >> caller: hey bill. let me put my bong down real quick here. [ laughter ] >> caller: you know, there is a certain bunch of us here that think that they're going to get us on entitlement. that's all they keep talking about. nobody's mentioning the military. so i'm with the other caller, the gal before that said let's go over the cliff. you're going to screw us anyway, you know what? everybod
but the other thing is remember this continued tax cut for the middle class is part of a deficit reduction package so the president is very much focused on getting rid of that debt and getting it off the backs of our kids but in the meantime, it is not necessary to raise tax rates on the middle class in order to get there. and if we did raise taxes on the middle class, it is not going to get us that far down the road. what will really get us down the road is getting back to the regular tax...
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and that is, we must ask the wealthy to pay a little more so we can get these deficit eliminated. get our debt paid down and start growing the economy again. that's not unusual or new to any of us. nobody in the country. so i think the president is sticking to what he said throughout the campaign and as i said 3 million more people voted for him than voted for the other guy. >> with that said, on taxes, if there's any chance on your side, is there any chance on your side to come down to the form of a smaller tax hike on incomes above $250,000 or would you consider keeping rate it is same at $250,000 and raising them only on higher incomes, say half a million or $1 million a year? >> i think it's all part of the negotiations. we know where the president is and that is 250,000. but there are a lot of democrats who voiced back before the campaign 500,000, some say even a million. all of that is going to be negotiated. the president wants 250. if mr. boehner wants to come and offer something different, i'm sure he will do that. but the president stands at 250. which is below even wher
and that is, we must ask the wealthy to pay a little more so we can get these deficit eliminated. get our debt paid down and start growing the economy again. that's not unusual or new to any of us. nobody in the country. so i think the president is sticking to what he said throughout the campaign and as i said 3 million more people voted for him than voted for the other guy. >> with that said, on taxes, if there's any chance on your side, is there any chance on your side to come down to...
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for $4 trillion deficit reduction in ten years, $1.6 trillion comes from households earning more than $250,000 a year. $400 billion in entitlement cuts in program like medicare and medicaid and $50 billion in new spending next year for inf infrastructu infrastructure. there's another idea. a permanent cease fire on raising the debt ceiling now $16 trillion that would allow it to rise automatically. republicans use the debt ceiling last year to extract spending cuts and they don't want to give up that leverage. >> there's a lot of things i've wanted in my life but almost all of them had a price tag attached to them. and if we're going to talk about the debt limit in this, there's going to be some price tag associated with it. >> reporter: the white house still seat tchlsiethes over las fight and doesn't want a replay. >> to ensure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible. >> reporter: the more both sides talk, the more complications they discover. the white house says nothing will move forward until
for $4 trillion deficit reduction in ten years, $1.6 trillion comes from households earning more than $250,000 a year. $400 billion in entitlement cuts in program like medicare and medicaid and $50 billion in new spending next year for inf infrastructu infrastructure. there's another idea. a permanent cease fire on raising the debt ceiling now $16 trillion that would allow it to rise automatically. republicans use the debt ceiling last year to extract spending cuts and they don't want to give...
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that adds to the deficit. somebody who makes more like $40,000 a year their tax savings is more like $91. it's a cherished middle class tax cut. some say it's more of a cherished upper middle class tax cut. the housing industry spending an awful lot of money lobbying to make sure this doesn't change. they say at a time when the housing market is just starting to recover, the last thing you want to do is take away that tax break. you would see home prices drop 15%. i've heard 20%. this is not the right time in a very fragile recovery for housing to start changing the tax advantage of home ownership. this is a fight that you're going to see play out and quite frankly there are people on the coasts and in those high-cost, high housing cost places as well nervously watching to see what happens with the mortgage deduction. mortgage rates still very, very low. can i show you yesterday's mortgage rates? 30-year fixed is 3.32%, deb. >> wow sthrks. >> 15-year fixed, popular refinancing tool, 2.64%. very low mortgage ra
that adds to the deficit. somebody who makes more like $40,000 a year their tax savings is more like $91. it's a cherished middle class tax cut. some say it's more of a cherished upper middle class tax cut. the housing industry spending an awful lot of money lobbying to make sure this doesn't change. they say at a time when the housing market is just starting to recover, the last thing you want to do is take away that tax break. you would see home prices drop 15%. i've heard 20%. this is not...
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the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in revenue, just gives them more to play with on capitol hill and more to spend. when we talk about fairness, when the top 2%, the $250,000 and above are already paying 45% of total income tax, that's a big question of fairness there too. >> who should nicki haley name to replace you? >> i talk today her today. i share the same philosophy, the conservative philosophy. i told her i trust her decision and i'm not going to push her one way or another. >> a lot of speculation, congressman scott? >> he's a wonderful person. our whole delegation is really strong. she's got a tough choice, but i'm convinced she'll give m
the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in...
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. >> stephanie: they said deficits don't matter. quote dick cheney or whatever. [ whatever ] who can remember. >> who can say. >> stephanie: by the way wow guess who relayed a lot of bad intelligence on tv shows. senator john mccain and lindsey graham. >> i think once they said there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. >> stephanie: yes, they're accusing susan rice, and their own moment of relaying bad intelligence. in 2003 they made appearances on "meet the press"; "face of a nation" where they said saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. for 1 years we've been playing this game trying to get this man to part with his weapons of mass destruction. mccain on "face of a nation" also made the case for the war based on weapons--wmd, and not being straightforward is a very reckless charge. there is not a doubt in my mind that saddam hussein would give out weapons of mass destruction. so basically wrong wrong wrong about everything. [ buzzer ] possibly even misleading the american people. >> by the way saddam hussein had not
. >> stephanie: they said deficits don't matter. quote dick cheney or whatever. [ whatever ] who can remember. >> who can say. >> stephanie: by the way wow guess who relayed a lot of bad intelligence on tv shows. senator john mccain and lindsey graham. >> i think once they said there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. >> stephanie: yes, they're accusing susan rice, and their own moment of relaying bad intelligence. in 2003 they made appearances on "meet...
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but it's a $4 trillion plan, been out there a long time 1.6 trillion over the next years, cutting the deficit, 1.6 cutting the tax cuts for the wealthiest for americans, and medicare and medicaid and farm subsidies and other, $1 trillion in additional spending cuts that the house, the senate and the white house have already agreed to and then $800,000,000,000 in new spending new revenue from cuts and spending because of ending the war in iraq and in afghanistan. the president's budget is out there. on the republican side, there is nothing. i am going to get back to it. here it is, also guy in the way is boehner. you have heard me say this, that boehner is not a bad guy. i used to think that and if you let him go, he would make a deal. i don't believe that any more. i think boehner is out to -- he doesn't care about the middle class, and his goal is to let this country go over the fiscal cliff because he wants the economy to fail because he wants president obama to fail. john boehner, again, i think the worst speaker ever, it's a time for leadership, not for playing political games. american p
but it's a $4 trillion plan, been out there a long time 1.6 trillion over the next years, cutting the deficit, 1.6 cutting the tax cuts for the wealthiest for americans, and medicare and medicaid and farm subsidies and other, $1 trillion in additional spending cuts that the house, the senate and the white house have already agreed to and then $800,000,000,000 in new spending new revenue from cuts and spending because of ending the war in iraq and in afghanistan. the president's budget is out...
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issues, bob erlich and i had to come in and try to create incentives within our economy, the $2 million deficit. you find completive ways to keep businesses that you have, but expand that base. so this idea these incentives were somehow bad for the economy or bad for the local market, to me, just don't add up necessarily because every state is different. you do compete -- we compete with virginia and delaware and pennsylvania and west virginia in our region. we want the jobs that we can get for our technical and other infrastructure with the state. how does all of that work out in the wash ultimately? who is the bad guy here? is it the governor goes out and gives the incentives with the legislature or is it the employer who keeps -- takes those incentives and want to stay in the state or come to the state? >> this not really about who is the bad guy but do we have a system that works? there is no national thinking. zero today on what are we spending on all this? is it coordinated? why, for instance, in kansas do you have kansas and missouri outbidding each other to have companies literally move
issues, bob erlich and i had to come in and try to create incentives within our economy, the $2 million deficit. you find completive ways to keep businesses that you have, but expand that base. so this idea these incentives were somehow bad for the economy or bad for the local market, to me, just don't add up necessarily because every state is different. you do compete -- we compete with virginia and delaware and pennsylvania and west virginia in our region. we want the jobs that we can get for...
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we have even published her own study on the deficit, copies of which are available here today. we look forward to continuing this conversation, keeping the dialogue ongoing over the next month and it's critical and we want to solve this problem and we think it will be very enlightening on what the issues are. with that i'm going to turn it over to you in the panel. thank you very much. >> can everybody hear? [inaudible] we do have an all-star panel. tim pawlenty the former governor of minnesota, i wrote that i thought he would have made the strongest presidential candidate. tim is now the head of the financial services roundtable, a job he took a month or two ago and he will be a huge player in washington. chris i have to say, first of all you kept two-thirds of your own district but your margins didn't go down at all. maybe a little bit. i know the county, one county represents for my son as and let's just say -- is a liberal but he did an incredible job. two senators now and on mars reminded when bob dole left the house to go to the senate, the single act -- [inaudible] bob c
we have even published her own study on the deficit, copies of which are available here today. we look forward to continuing this conversation, keeping the dialogue ongoing over the next month and it's critical and we want to solve this problem and we think it will be very enlightening on what the issues are. with that i'm going to turn it over to you in the panel. thank you very much. >> can everybody hear? [inaudible] we do have an all-star panel. tim pawlenty the former governor of...
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the amounts that are in the budget control act are counted as it relates to dealing with our deficit. and unfortunately, this is not offset. and over the next decade violates the budget by $7 billion. so for that reason, mr. president, the pending measure, amendment number nelson 3073 to s. 3254, the national defense reauthorization act, would cause the underlying legislation to exceed the authorizing committee section 302-a allocation of the new budget authority or outlays. therefore, i raise a point of order against the measure pursuant to section 302-f of the congressional budget act of 1974. and i encourage all of us who want to solve this problem before year end to vote with me. thank you. mr. nelson: mr. president in. the presiding officer: the senator from florida is recognized. mr. nelson: i move to waive and ask for the yeas and nays. the presiding officer: is there a sufficient second? there appears to be. the clerk will call the roll. vote: vote: vote: the presiding officer: are there any senators wishing to vote or to change their vote? seeing none, on this vote, the yeas
the amounts that are in the budget control act are counted as it relates to dealing with our deficit. and unfortunately, this is not offset. and over the next decade violates the budget by $7 billion. so for that reason, mr. president, the pending measure, amendment number nelson 3073 to s. 3254, the national defense reauthorization act, would cause the underlying legislation to exceed the authorizing committee section 302-a allocation of the new budget authority or outlays. therefore, i raise...